WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



J.Riddle 12:24 Thu Aug 10
Mutiny at the Lane
With Kyle Walker gone to Man City for £54m on £130,000 per week, looks like Levy's 80k wage cap is being tested. Harry Kane is quoted to be on £60k per week? Thought Snodgrass gets more than that? Now Danny Rose has spoken out, love this bit "I don't know how much longer I might have at this level". Will be tough to pay more what with the new stadium costs. Looks like the wheels are coming off, let's hope they do a Leeds!

c&p Standard
Danny Rose has warned Tottenham he will ensure he is "paid what I am worth" amid interest from Manchester United.

The Spurs defender signed a new five-year deal worth around £70,000-a-week in 2016 and has developed into one of the best left-backs in the world in recent seasons at White Hart Lane.

Rose, who moved to Spurs from Leeds in 2007, has said he will play up north again before his career is out and knows he would earn a substantial pay rise if he moved to a Premier League rival.

Manchester City made an attempt to sign the 27-year-old earlier in the window, while United boss Jose Mourinho is also a long-term admirer and Chelsea are tracking the situation.

"I know my worth and I will make sure I get what I am worth. I don't know how much longer I might have at this level.

"Anyone who thinks this is primarily for money, that is not the case. But I know what I am worth."

And Rose believes the entire Tottenham team is underpaid.

He added: "As with anyone else in my team, in my opinion, I am worth more than I am getting.

"I am not speaking on behalf of other players, but that is my view."

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goose 12:26 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
good.

hope the cunts have a nightmare season.

lovely, new, fit-for-purpose football stadiums are expensive things arent they?

Takashi Miike 12:33 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
until they win something Rose is talking bollocks. to bring up the fans not taking to him when he first joined is desperate and completely grasping at reasons for him agitating. it's why the game is fucked now, agents will destroy it getting ridiculous money for average players

Rossal 12:35 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Loved the bit where he says its a priority to play football up north in the next few years

bascially a come and get me to either Manchester club

El Scorchio 12:36 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
They've managed their wage bill exceptionally well up until now. Can't believe some of the 'low' wages they've been paying considering the talent of some of their players.

Looks like it's catching up with them now though and they are going to have to start scrapping that if they want to hang on to some of them.

However, if they are able to carry on bringing young players of similar quality into their first team, maybe they can sustain it. Would be sickening though.

Takashi Miike 12:40 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
people have a pop at the nfl but that sport is run how football should be where you only get good contracts if you perform well and only the best players get top money. football/soccer's current model is unsustainable in its current guise where run of the mill players are picking up millions a year for zero effort

El Scorchio 12:43 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
That's only possible because of the salary cap though, which works great in a closed system but would be nigh on impossible to enforce in a global sport.

It would be brilliant if they could implement something similar to keep wages sensible and ensure talent is spread throughout the divisions rather than solely at a few clubs and it would stop certain teams just hoovering up all the young talent. However there's no way that group of clubs who seem to have all the power would agree to something like that.

Takashi Miike 12:51 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
I know it's to do with a salary cap but that's the only thing that will save the game. paying two bob fullbacks £150k a week is the road to oblivion

Takashi Miike 12:54 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
its the mentality of the modern football that gets me most. they talk as if theyre hard done by, that only getting £60 a week is a hardship/punishment. nothing is ever enough for these greedy cunts and i wouldn't go regularly again if you paid me

Takashi Miike 12:54 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
*footballer*

El Scorchio 12:55 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
I completely agree. It would help save the game, but I think it's sadly impossible to introduce one in football.

Even if they did, certain teams would find ways round it and the governing bodies would just let them get away with it anyway.

Eggbert Nobacon 1:04 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
The NFL doesn't have other leagues around the world that the best [players can go to and earn more money though

Takashi Miike 1:06 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
you only had to look at our friendly with man city to see how uncompetitive the game is now in regard to relative squad strength and budgets

El Scorchio 1:07 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Eggbert Nobacon 1:04

Exactly- as mentioned already :)

Takashi Miike 1:08 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
eggbert, i totally agree with that but my point was more to do with only the better players getting these top contracts and not every fucker who puts on a pair of boots

Crassus 1:15 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Miike

Nature of the beast I am afraid, if the top boys are earning £300k a week the average ones will want £100k - and the money is in the game, no players no TV money.

A bit like plumbers after a sudden freeze and pipes are popping everywhere, basic supply and demand however much it offends us mere mortals

Dr Moose 1:30 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Riddle,

You'll be Ganked soon.

Crassus 1:38 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Something is not as it appears in Tottenham

In the last few months we have had the odd press statement, not hearsay but statement that if you string it all together points to things going a tad bandy

1/ Last year it was all a bed of roses, new ground, finances sorted etc
2/ At the end of the season there were concerns that they may have to stay at Wembley a year or so longer due to construction issues
3/ Then there was the rumours of a Chinese take over
4/ Those rumours rebuffed by Levy by way of him saying that they were untrue and he had been in protracted dialogue to secure funding for the new stadium
5/ No signings but Levy giving it the praise be the academy
6/ Walker walks for £50m
7/ Rose giving it the unofficial shop steward on wages

All looks a trifle wobbly does it not?

Infidel 1:51 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
The idea of a salary cap is nonsense.

Footballers are paid what they are worth. That's it. Period. Full stop.

There are over 3,000 professional footballers in England alone. They make their living playing football. It's alll they do. Every one of them dreams of making it to the Premier League and every week they get to audition and display their skills in the hope they get noticed and snapped up by a PL club.

The Academies are also stuffed with hopefuls auditioning every week and trying to get picked for the senior team. Most of them don't make it, including Sam Howes, Sam Ford, Kyle Knoyle and Sam Westley, youngsters who have just left West Ham this Summer because they weren't good enough.

And that's only the English players. There is also huge competition from overseas players, most of whom would love a few years on PL salaries.

Add it all together and you have an almost perfect market - a huge supply and almost perfect information in the hands of the buyers.

Every one of those journeymen footballers you rage about because they are useless and should not be paid 50k a week made it through one of the most competitive
job markets in the world and got picked.

That's not to say that mistakes are not made - they are - but to argue that the whole system is flawed just because Jonathan Callieri couldn't hit a barn door from 10 yards is wrong-headed. The system is excellent but there will be human error from time to time.

Salary caps and 'home grown' quotas will produce the same result: poorer quality football. Before you say you want more English players in the Premier league go and watch the players who would benefit from a quota playing week in and week out - by going to a Championship match, which is where they are all plying their trade today.

A home grown quota means taking 40 or 50 players from that division and moving them up to the PL. Why would anyone want to do that?

It's very, very hard to become a Premier League footballer. If you make it, through the forest of competitors who are trying to climb over you, you are worth it.

The money is there to pay these wages because they attract millions of TV viewers and the TV company ca sell those eyeballs to advertisers for top dollar. So the players are paid what they're worth, and if that happens to be 100x what you earn then that's life. Get over it.

Pervy McBeer 1:54 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
Takashi Miike 12:51 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
I know it's to do with a salary cap but that's the only thing that will save the game. paying two bob fullbacks £150k a week is the road to oblivion

Agreed. But they compare themselves to the current market, players going for silly money on silly wages and then their own expectations are exceeded with it. If he thinks he's as good as Walker then why shouldn't he get paid the same?

Sniper 1:59 Thu Aug 10
Re: Mutiny at the Lane
I don't think a salary cap could ever be introduced in football for he reasons neurones below

What makes me laugh about Spurs right now is that, yes they are doing well, but levy is now being held up as some kind of genius finance moghul when in fact his club wage limit and dicking around in transfers held them back for a long time. Remember when berbatov went on transfer deadline day after levy tried to play hardball and they got Frazier Campbell in as a replacement? Or when they spunked the bale money on a load of shit all in the same sort of position, only a couple of who actually paid off?

Levys antics don't actually do them any favours and after two seasons of 'nearlys' they basically now run the risk of being a bigger version of Southampton, with all their top players fuxkingnoff and not being able to buy top drawer replacements because they won't pay them

I don't agree for a second that it's right that we pay snodgrass or whoever more than they pay their players, but that is how it is in football and in that regard, why would t their players be getting kissed off? They get paid less than worse players and they still haven't won anything sonwhat exactly is he incentive to stay?

And don't say loyalty - it doesn't really exist that much in football any more than any other job.

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